Case study: Why don't these cows visit the robot more often?

Case study: Why don't these cows visit the robot more often?

This question we got from Finland. These cows only visit the robot 2,2 times a day with 31 liters milk per day.

Could it be te stairs? Please share your thoughts!

Some more pictures:



Comments (16)

Gerry

Where are the pellet feeders located? How often are they visited? Are the same pellets fed here as at the robot?

Marcos Gimenez Zapiola

The pictures are too small. Maybe a video would help. They look bored, though.

Annelise Hever

Dear all
It is not possible to say why there are not more visits per cow and day just from this pictures. As a specialist for robotic milking I give you a couple of reasons why herds or individual cows do not visit as much as the should (2.5 milkings per cow and day).
Space around the robot is not sufficient, cows feel not comforable. Cows are in acidosis, feed on the robot is not tasty, there is not enough free time (less than 12%), too many lame cows, cows are mainly in late lactation or are producing low milk yields. You have also to check if the whole herd is not visiting well or in the average of 2.2 milkings there are part of the cow visiting a lot and others not voluntarly. That would mean that you have a lot of fetch cows. If there are not more than 4-5 cows to fetch mornings and evenings on the robot may there is not a problem with the cows but with the milking allowances. Are there any attempts to get milked, If it's about 1 attempt (refusal) per cow and day, this would be a good sign. If there are less than that, this would mean that the cows really dont like to go to the robot or your robot is too full. Look also for stray currents. To solve the problem - you may need a specialist on site. Good luck, Annelise

Bastiaan

are there too many fly's in the barn or around thr robot? Could happen with a lot of straw. then use fans

Joep Driessen

Hi all, thank you very much for your thoughts!
Indeed hard to say what the problem is with only the pictures. Some additional thoughts from Jan Hulsen, Wiebe Veenstra, Bertjan Westerlaan and myself:
- stairs can be slippery
- check claw health
- check feed

Henk

How many robots arena milking the cows? Why are there standing 3 feedstations? How many concentrates are fed on the robot and on the feedstations?

Cees-Jan

Hi Joep, maybe the lighting could be one of the reasons. Looking at the pictures it looks like there is quite some shadow and a considerable difference in intensities resulting in a poor uniformity. I would take a look at the lighting.

Stelian Petre

Hello,

My votes goes for:
1. Stairs (difficult to climb, unusual stairs)
2. BCS shows a high DIM, advanced pregancy, low DMI and also low milk
3. Temperature, confort from tobot area, noize
4. Feed supplement from robot, palatable?
5. Hoofs, although straw bedding assure low risk on hofs

Kind regards,

Aart

Annelise Hever wrote:
Dear all
It is not possible to say why there are not more visits per cow and day just from this pictures. As a specialist for robotic milking I give you a couple of reasons why herds or individual cows do not visit as much as the should (2.5 milkings per cow and day).
Space around the robot is not sufficient, cows feel not comforable. Cows are in acidosis, feed on the robot is not tasty, there is not enough free time (less than 12%), too many lame cows, cows are mainly in late lactation or are producing low milk yields. You have also to check if the whole herd is not visiting well or in the average of 2.2 milkings there are part of the cow visiting a lot and others not voluntarly. That would mean that you have a lot of fetch cows. If there are not more than 4-5 cows to fetch mornings and evenings on the robot may there is not a problem with the cows but with the milking allowances. Are there any attempts to get milked, If it's about 1 attempt (refusal) per cow and day, this would be a good sign. If there are less than that, this would mean that the cows really dont like to go to the robot or your robot is too full. Look also for stray currents. To solve the problem - you may need a specialist on site. Good luck, Annelise

All the right answers!! Indeed, " average" is one of them. This does not say much about the herd behaviorr....and like you mentioned there is a whole list of other questions. Get a specialist in, who can also analyze the data.

Robert Nugteren

I agree with the above comments. My first thoughts were, before reading the comments and just looking at the (small) pictures:
The concentrate feed at the robots is a significant attraction item for the cows, This is largely defeated by the extra feeders. 31 Kg is not that high and the cows at the peak of their lactation likely account for the extra .2 milkings, above the 2x a day milkings
Another thing was the air quality. The straw area has wide open sides while the robot area is more insulated (likely for the low temperatures in the winter time). Forced ventilation, if not preset yet will make the air quality in the robot area much better, thus a better place for cows to go to. Robert

manuel figueiredo

Several reasons could add a point. several are already pointed. I would suggest to evaluate feed quality / palatability / consumption and behavior (number of meals). to understand also the entrance of the robot (why suspect on the stairs? its difficult to see on photos) and also its maintenance (vacuum).

Jeroen

Average does not mean anything. You should look at which cows are out of the range of 8-12kg/milking. Too little is not good, but here it seems the yield per milking will be too high. The question is why: which cows are these? Older / lame cows, ........
Make feeding in the robot priority above feeding in the stations. Perhaps block the stations after x hours after last milking. If the robot is not full, you can even feed longer than actual milkingtime.

Joep Driessen

Great to read all your responses!

michael madsen

hi i wars thinking abut ,time in the box . for milking . haw fast .slow?
are there a a granulat box for herifers .? best day

Carsten Houmann

I have no clear answer - but as I see the picture it seem to staered cow traffic. May bee "Feed First" If you feed a big part of the concentrate, the cows only have one reason to go in the robot - milking. Cows think´s - why should I go to the robot - I got what I need of feed from the feeding table and the automates.
If you don´t teach the cow to go for milking 3 times a day from the start of 1. lactation, more than 70 % of the cows will never come to the robot more than 2 times pr. day.
Fore a better answer I need some information and data from the robot.
Good luck teaching the cows for 3 times milking.

Dillisri

Why the robot don't works as advanced doctor for cow?

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